Here is the original poem where I started this exploration:
STYLE
Flaubert wanted to write a novel
About nothing. It was to have no subject
And be sustained upon the style alone,
Like the Holy Ghost cruising above
The abyss, or like the little animals
In Disney cartoons who stand upon a branch
That breaks, but do not fall
Till they look down. He never wrote that novel,
And neither did he write another one
That would have been called La Spirale,
Wherein the hero's fortunes were to rise
In dreams, while his walking life disintegrated.
Even so, for these two books
We thank the master. They can be read,
With difficulty, in the spirit alone,
Are not so wholly lost as certain works
Burned at Alexandria, flooded at Florence,
And are never taught at universities.
Moreover, they are not deformed by style,
That fire that eats what it illuminates.
Themes about life, even nothingness, are inherently limited if you write them down, they may be better understood if you never try to articulate them.
If you stick only to what you know, if you limit the story to what you know, will you ever really understand anything?
Can life be understood if you never try articulating it, if you write a book about nothing, if you never write a book about nothing?
The imagined works.
Maybe all of the ideas are not meant to fit together, or maybe they each fit together at a different time.
How do we frame the act of asking and answering questions? Do we listen to real things or things that don't exist?
Our frame is a need for answers.
We search for understanding (in reading poems, in listening to people, in telling stories), through the frame of needing answers, but would we understand more if we could create a frame that let us experience understanding without actively searching for it?
"Once for instance, my father asked me a series of questions that suddenly
made me wonder whether I understood even my father whom I felt closer to
than any man I have ever known. 'You like to tell true stories, don't you?'
he asked, and I answered, 'Yes, I like to tell stories that are true.'
Then he asked, 'After you have finished your true stories sometime, why
don't you make up a story and the people to go with it?
'Only then will you understand what happened and why.'"
-Norman Maclean, A River Runs Through It
The lecture was on the writing of Primo Levi which describes his time in Auschwitz. My professor began discussing a point he called the art of listening. He then went on to explain the two problems we have with listening: 1. There is the danger of premature understanding. In an attempt to reach out, we end up reaching over. 2. We listen only to the point of finding a tag where we can tell our own story.
How do we truly listen, truly understand?

1 comment:
I agree that forcing ideas to fit frames is challenging, and yet, I find that forcing (in various) inescapable, anything i do having to fit into the frame of my mortality --a need to get done what becomes framed to me as essential to accomplish within that frame --a frame that perhaps I can reconfigure, but probably, at this time, cannot eliminate
though something in which I've participated may continue to participate in linked episodes of influence/framing after my physical body begins transformation postmortem,
a reframing of persistence
(a from of which is part of the themes [framing systems] in Tokyo Butter).
You write:
Themes about life, even nothingness, are inherently limited if you write them down, they may be better understood if you never try to articulate them
--indeed; once articulated, ideas become framed, configured in a particular way or style, and erasure of all evidence of that framing system is difficult;
even if reconfigured, some trace influence of the prior configuration (--oh the power of initial conditions of an encounter--) may exert itself in some form in some location, providing a context, no matter how subtle, for subsequent configurations --perhaps an infinite amount of subsequent configuration is possible, but it is a bounded infinity
whereas the unarticulated idea system is less bounded
though both forms may be equally infinite; the infinities are different sizes.
This is a powerful, thoughtful, insightful, useful, beautiful post;
Thank you.
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